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Post by steff on Jun 14, 2012 13:48:08 GMT -5
I liked Gary on Knots Landing, but on Dallas is was always the whipping boy for Jock & JR. Yes, Lucy is Gary & Val's daughter, but barely spoke to them because they left her for Miss Ellie to raise.
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Post by Forever Sunshine on Jun 14, 2012 13:55:22 GMT -5
Well, that's really why Gary left Dallas . . . to get away from all that and have a life of his own. LOL
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Post by steff on Jun 14, 2012 14:07:22 GMT -5
That's why I don't think we'll see Gary back....he just wouldn't be interested in getting back into that with JR.
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Post by Forever Sunshine on Jun 14, 2012 14:12:29 GMT -5
Yea, you're probably right. Are there any other players from the old season? Did Cliff have children?
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Post by steff on Jun 14, 2012 14:29:03 GMT -5
No Cliff never had kids. At one point, he thought John Ross was his, but DNA/paternity test proved it was JR. Other than Cliff & if they resurrect Pam, I don't think there are any other characters that would come back or were important enough long term to bring back. Since it's really supposed to be more about John Ross & Christopher, I don't see them bringing Jenna Wade back to mess with Bobby.
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Post by Forever Sunshine on Jun 14, 2012 14:35:29 GMT -5
Hmmm well we'll just have to see how all this plays out. Are any of the writers the same from the original show?
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Post by steff on Jun 14, 2012 14:55:35 GMT -5
No, it's a new writer, but she did a year of research before she started writing the scripts. So she made sure to know her history.
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Post by steff on Jun 18, 2012 21:55:34 GMT -5
Ok, mom & I have spent all day today talking, remembering & researching Dallas stuff.
We think we have figured out who Rebecca, Christopher's wife is. She's going to be Cliff Barnes daughter by Afton Cooper. Afton & Cliff had a daughter named Pamela Rebecca. When Afton ran away from Dallas, she convinced Cliff that it wasn't his daughter, but it was. Rebecca, Christopher's wife, has been an orphan since she was 12 (according to TNT's character page). We think the "brother" isn't blood related. The question now is.....is she just grifting money from the Ewings, is she getting revenge for Cliff, but without his knowledge, based on what Afton told her about the Barnes/Ewing feud, or is Cliff involved with her & she's spying for him. Cliff will be on either this week or next week & on 4 other episodes this season.
Gary WAS asked to come back also, but the actor is on a daytime soap & couldn't get the scheduling arranged. There is always a chance he will make an appearance, like Lucy & Ray, but won't be a main character. Lucy & Ray will make several appearances this season at Southfork functions, but no real story lines.
Mom now thinks Rebecca sent the email to Elena, but I still say whoever told John Ross that Elena was in Mexico is the same person who sent the email....and I still think that person is Sue Ellen.
I also read an article that said not to look at John Ross as JR 2.0, but to see him as JOCK 2.0. Wildcatting, dealing for oil, doing everything on the fly & by the seat of his pants. Like Jock did to start Ewing Oil. Bobby's wife is supposed to be the "new" Miss Ellie, but I'm sorry, there is only one Miss Ellie.
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Post by Forever Sunshine on Jun 18, 2012 23:14:35 GMT -5
Well, that's all interesting. It wouldn't surprise me if Rebecca is Cliff's daughter. That would make sense. I'm thinking Cliff won't know about it but the way the pilot went, and all the layers set up, it could be he does know. If I remember, Cliff always got caught by surprise about stuff.
I figured they'd ask Gary back. What soap is he on that he can't manage to come back? I always liked Gary.
I easily could see John Ross being set up as Jock. Yep. And no way will Annie ever be a Miss Ellie! No one can replace Miss Ellie!
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Post by steff on Jun 18, 2012 23:49:36 GMT -5
Ted Shackleford (Gary) is on the Young & the Restless right now.
And don't forget, Cliff owns Ewing Oil now. Everything I could find said that Cliff didn't believe the daughter Afton had was his, so I bet he's just as clueless as he always was...lol
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Post by Forever Sunshine on Jun 18, 2012 23:54:41 GMT -5
I don't watch the Young and the Restless. I hope he makes a few appearances anyway!
If that's the case, then he probably doesn't have a clue. But, given the way the writers are twisting and layering, it wouldn't surprise me to find out later that Cliff did know. LOL
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Post by steff on Jun 19, 2012 0:02:15 GMT -5
I can't wait to see Cliff & find out if he's run Ewing Oil into the ground or not....lol and did he ever upgrade that condo.
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Post by Forever Sunshine on Jun 19, 2012 7:00:25 GMT -5
LMAO! I can't wait either. One more day! I don't think he'll be in the same condo. LOL
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Post by lonewolf on Jun 19, 2012 7:55:23 GMT -5
It sounds like I'm going to have to check this out.
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Post by Forever Sunshine on Jun 19, 2012 8:12:58 GMT -5
Lone, did you watch the original series some 30 years ago? It ran from the late 70s into the early 90s.
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Post by steff on Jun 19, 2012 14:22:36 GMT -5
More theories on who Rebecca & Tommy Sutter are. ....
Carter McKay's grandchildren. Carter's son TOMMY's death is on Ewing hands. He would SOOOO be out for revenge.
Katherine Wentworth's kids. She hated Bobby when she left Dallas because he didn't love her & wouldn't marry/sleep with her. She's another that would definitely be out for revenge against specifically Bobby.
But I'm still going with Rebecca being Afton Cooper's daughter w/ Cliff Barnes. As to who Tommy is, not sure. He could still be Carter McKay's grandson & they hooked up for revenge.
BTW, the original Dallas is rerun every afternoon on CMT. It's still early in the series because Jock is still alive. From what I can see (I just found it today) it runs from noon until 7 pm on Tuesdays.
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Post by Forever Sunshine on Jun 19, 2012 14:27:48 GMT -5
This one works for me.
I didn't think there was anyone around who didn't watch the original. LOL
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Post by steff on Jun 19, 2012 14:35:21 GMT -5
This one works for me.
I didn't think there was anyone around who didn't watch the original. LOL
Mom and I are watching the reruns so we can remember more of the backstory that is surely going to come into play in the reboot. They're already showing that they really drug thru the original for things, so the hints have to be there. lol
Jock has just been arrested for murder. They found a body from 20-30 years before on Southfork & it's a guy that Jock fought with night before he disappeared. Sue Ellen just found out Dusty is dead (but not really) & hit the bottle again. She left Southfork & left John Ross (abt 6 months old) in Miss Ellie's care.
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Post by Forever Sunshine on Jun 19, 2012 14:45:40 GMT -5
LMAO I forgot about Dusty! Maybe I should be watching the reruns!
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Post by steff on Jun 19, 2012 14:49:07 GMT -5
There's nothing else on during a Tuesday afternoon....lol
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