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Post by Shirina on Nov 11, 2012 21:02:54 GMT -5
I was going to write a post in response to "poopay" then decided not to.
We're all pretty friendly around here most of the time, and if someone causes another true offense, we usually back down and apologize ... well, except for Tosh, perhaps. What we don't do is continue antagonizing the offended person. A person who does that is called a bully.
If only ...
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Post by robinpa on Nov 11, 2012 22:49:55 GMT -5
"And again. Piss off. " I still believe if you actually had a job rather than spending countless hours every day posting, you would feel better about yourself. Peace out. Typical right winger bs. Poopay gets called out for "unfair stereotyping" ( because thats what he was doing), but rather than actually admitting his prejudicial hate he instead tries to attack the ones who have a legitimate reason to be irritated at him like shirina and iif do for the comments he made to and about them. Three things are very clear by your posts here poopay. One, that you have never known anyone who is actually on disability, two, that you have a tendency to condemn what you dont understand, and three, that you dont know what you are talking about. Before you try and lump everyone collecting disability into your preconceived notions of what kind of people you think they are, try and actually get to know someone who is on disability or qualifies for it. Try giving them your view about how you feel they should find a job, how you feel they arent deserving of the public aid they get, or how you feel their public funded healthcare whether its life long or not is a burden on you. See how far your attitude gets you with them. I have known a few people on disability. One, a buddy of mine I have known for about 30 years has had cistic fibrosis all his life. Typically people with that ugly affliction dont live much beyond their teens but he has managed to live to be 38. He has been on limited disability and public funded aid of one kind or another since he was a child and only recently managed to get on full disability. But he has managed to work against doctors orders for much of the intervening years, mostly because he couldnt get the full public aid he should have been given long ago. Without that aid the tests and meds he needed cost quite a bit of money, a big portion of which, he had to pay for out of his own pocket. My father, was a career navy man until rhuematoid arthritis twisted him up to the point that he could no longer work and he got a medical discharge. It took him almost 20 years before he was granted full disability. Those are just 2 examples. There are many more people like them who need and deserve life long public funded medical care. Also just as an added bit of info, neither my buddy nor my dad or anyone else I know on disability, frequent the liquor store, beer distributors, or bars. Also neither of them or anyone else I know on disability have ever filed for bankruptcy. Most bankruptcy filers I have known, filed because they have went through divorces. ETA: Its not very easy for people to get disability. In fact its way harder to get that than it is to get welfare. My father had to fight for years to get full disability. Many years of paying for tests and going through all kinds of bureaucratic hoops and red tape until he was granted it. By that time my dads neck was completely fused by the damage the arthritis had done to him, as well as having had 2 hip replacements, and extensive damage done to his knees, hands, and feet. My buddy didnt qualify for full disability until one of his lungs was completely destroyed by the affliction he has. Until that time he also had to go through an array of obstacles and tests preventing him from getting the aid he deserved. So this foolish notion that its easy to scam disability that poopay and others on the right seem to have is just not true. Welfare fraud is much more rampant because its much easier to scam that system. Not so with disability. So poopay next time make sure you actually know what you are talking about before you cast aspersions at anyone on some kind of public funded program.
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Post by poopay on Nov 12, 2012 5:41:52 GMT -5
Happy Veterans day to all of the HARD WORKING men and women in the military who have helped make this country great. To those folks who continue to scam the system by believing the government and all of the working class owes you a living: You're Welcome!
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Post by a on Nov 12, 2012 8:28:12 GMT -5
Happy Veterans day to all of the HARD WORKING men and women in the military who have helped make this country great. To those folks who continue to scam the system by believing the government and all of the working class owes you a living: You're Welcome! Welcome home. What unit were you in? 503d PIR, II Field Force VN here...
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Post by Shirina on Nov 12, 2012 10:16:46 GMT -5
Yes, by all means, do tell ...
PO2 YN USS Canopus (AS 34) myself.
Are you suggesting that there are people on this thread who scam the system?
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Post by robinpa on Nov 12, 2012 12:06:34 GMT -5
Happy Veterans Day IIF and Shirina, thank you for your service.
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Post by robinpa on Nov 12, 2012 12:10:52 GMT -5
That's exactly what poopay is suggesting. But since he doesnt know what he's talking about, and has no clue at all how tough it is to get disability, his words and views on the subject carry no weight.
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Post by a on Nov 12, 2012 12:14:23 GMT -5
Happy Veterans Day IIF and Shirina, thank you for your service. Thanks Rob, just 2 out of 22+ million....
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Post by robinpa on Nov 12, 2012 12:17:14 GMT -5
Happy Veterans Day IIF and Shirina, thank you for your service. Thanks Rob, just 2 out of 22+ million.... Thats true and every one of those 22+ million earn my respect and admiration everyday for serving.
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Post by a on Nov 12, 2012 15:52:44 GMT -5
Only 3.5 to 4 million of us receive disability compensation, at some rate, for service connected medical issues, buncha' slackers that we are. Those "entitlements" we need to cut. Almost half of those currently being discharged are seeking benefits now. As if 4 or 5 combat deployments has affected them...
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Post by poopay on Nov 12, 2012 17:01:33 GMT -5
"Only 3.5 to 4 million of us receive disability compensation, at some rate, for service connected medical issues, buncha' slackers that we are. Those "entitlements" we need to cut."
I'm sure posting all day is a great relief for your disability. I can see doing that lets out a lot of built up anger for you. Enjoy your therapy. Happy Veterans day and thank you for your service.
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Post by a on Nov 12, 2012 17:16:16 GMT -5
"Only 3.5 to 4 million of us receive disability compensation, at some rate, for service connected medical issues, buncha' slackers that we are. Those "entitlements" we need to cut." I'm sure posting all day is a great relief for your disability. I can see doing that lets out a lot of built up anger for you. Enjoy your therapy. Happy Veterans day and thank you for your service. It is, thanks. Just for the social aspect. (with friendly posters) As for the anger, it's not built up but was left in places like Dau Tieng and Dak To. As for therapy, it's physical. Happy Veterans Day and thank you for your service. What unit was that?
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Post by a on Nov 12, 2012 17:23:10 GMT -5
There are a few of us who have the Internet to thank for a social outlet. You might want to go over and thank Peg (Flying Horse) for her service as an Air Force Officer also, mr/ms. poopay.
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Post by poopay on Nov 12, 2012 18:32:55 GMT -5
"As for the anger, it's not built up but was left in places like Dau Tieng and Dak To. As for therapy, it's physical."
I'm glad you made it out of there. I know many did not. Way back on my first post on this thread, it was in response to Forever's post as I gave my opinion that I didn't believe health insurance should be considered an entitlement, as many believe the opposite. I also posted that there were many who scam the system. Whether you agree with that or not, I'm not certain why you and Shirina took it personally, calling me names, telling me to piss off & accusing me of racism. This was all because you and she decided to take my response to Forever's post as a personal slur on both of you. It was never meant that way. Of course I responded when you both made it into a personal attack on me. Now that I responded back to your personal attacks, I am called a bully as well. I don't expect anything but rudness from the 2 of you on this thread, since neither of you seem to tolerate a truely opposite political view from yours without being insulting. I do wish both of you well regardless of our differing political opinions. We should all be allowed to post our opinions on different subjects without being personally attacked just because most folks here seem to have a liberal slant on their political beliefs. I hope we can all post our feelings and opinions here in the future without the personal attacks. Peace.
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Post by a on Nov 12, 2012 18:39:33 GMT -5
Obamacare probably sounds wonderful to those who presently have no health insurance, never worked, or are on some supposed disability that keeps them from the work force but not from the liquor store. Those are the type of peeps who have never worried in their lives about how things are going to get paid for. They just continue to live above their means, refuse to work, then declare bankruptcy and not pay their bills when things start catching up with them. They continue to leech off others until enough time goes by to start the cycle all over again. They pass this type of message on to their children. That's why we have generations of families that continue to scam our system and make the rest of us pay their way through life. Then there are the opposite. Some of those are hard working folks who simply are making barely enough to get by and cannot afford the escalating price of health coverage. Some may have had decent coverage and recently lost their jobs due to a legitimate illness, or lay offs, and now can't afford the coverage until they hopefully get another job, which in today's economy is extremely difficult to find. The debate comes down to whether or not health care should be considered an entitlement or a privilege. That point has been debated throughout Obama's 5 yr campaign, leading up to him getting reelected. Bottom line, the middle class will get hit hardest no matter how things pan out. If anyone actually believes that his plan will only affect the the ones making greater than $250K/yr in the long run, then I have some swamp land in Fl that I would like to sell you. This plan will definitely trickle down to the middle class in a very short time. I'm not sure I agree with Romney's statement about the 47% who have the entitlement mentality regarding pretty much everything the rest have to pay for. I do however think that there are way too many folks who continue to abuse the system that was never meant to sustain folks all of their lives. That attitude, along with the greed from doctors, hospitals & drug companies are what has gotten this whole health care system in our country out of control. JMO. « Reply #1 Yesterday at 9:12am »
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Post by a on Nov 12, 2012 18:40:22 GMT -5
The healthcare industry will be paid one way or another. With or without "Obamacare," healthcare costs will continue to rise and EVERYONE will pay. Lazy people who play the system aren't going to change any more than the greedy people/corporations who play the system will. Corporate welfare still costs 3 times more than social welfare. « Reply #2 Yesterday at 9:39am »
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Post by a on Nov 12, 2012 18:42:28 GMT -5
The biggest system being played is the 2 party, winner take all system employed by 2 political parties to rule government at every level and funded by corporations. A system that is never mentioned in the US Constitution any more than political parties are. « Reply #3 Yesterday at 9:50am »
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Post by a on Nov 12, 2012 19:00:58 GMT -5
Believe what you will...my views aren't politically partisan.
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Post by poopay on Nov 12, 2012 20:14:28 GMT -5
I get disability compensation. Don't like it? Piss off... You conveniently forgot this response that you posted prior to my responding to any of the personal attacks toward me. Then came the name calling from you. Believe what you will but both you and Shirina posted the personal attacks to my one and only post prior to my responding.
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Post by a on Nov 12, 2012 20:29:04 GMT -5
I get disability compensation. Don't like it? Piss off... You conveniently forgot this response that you posted prior to my responding to any of the personal attacks toward me. Then came the name calling from you. Believe what you will but both you and Shirina posted the personal attacks to my one and only post prior to my responding. Oh that stands, it wasn't forgotten "conveniently" or otherwise and stand un-deleted for anyone to see. I do get disability compensation along with 3.5 to 4 million other vets (I know nothing about SSI) and if you or anyone else doesn't like it I and the vast majority of the others will say "piss off." Probably the same reply you would get from the "triple dippers" who receive SSI, military pensions, VA disability at 100%. Some do it and work too, for the government. I can only suggest you just not respond to me, mr/ms poopay, and I'll do likewise, no political views expressed, all personal.
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