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Post by Forever Sunshine on Jan 9, 2013 22:44:23 GMT -5
Steroid-tainted stars Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens and Sammy Sosa were denied entry to baseball's Hall of Fame, with voters failing to elect any candidates for only the second time in four decades.
A candidate must receive 75 percent of the vote from the voting members of the Baseball Writers’ Association of America in order to be inducted.
In totals announced Wednesday by the Hall and the BBWAA, Bonds, baseball’s only seven-time Most Valuable Player, received 36.2 percent of the vote. Clemens, the only seven-time Cy Young Award winner got 37.6 percent; Sammy Sosa received just 12.5 percent. They were appearing on the ballot for the first time and have up to 14 more years to make it to Cooperstown.
Bonds is the sport's season and career home run leader. Clemens is third in career strikeouts and ninth in wins.
''It is unimaginable that the best player to ever play the game would not be a unanimous first-ballot selection,'' said Jeff Borris of the Beverly Hills Sports Council, Bonds' longtime agent.
msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/baseball-hall-of-fame-announcement-no-player-elected-to-class-of-2013-010913
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2013 3:32:00 GMT -5
Sorry, but this steroid stuff, who cares? Put them in the Hall of fame based on their records and their records alone. It isn't some rubber stamp of their personal lives or choices. And, if baseball really wanted to stop steroids, they could easily do so. But, they don't mind looking the other way when they are making profits so boo hoo to them. Either take a strong stand and KICK out players who do this or stop pretending with the phony outrage. The records ARE the records.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2013 13:50:18 GMT -5
Sorry, but this steroid stuff, who cares? Put them in the Hall of fame based on their records and their records alone. It isn't some rubber stamp of their personal lives or choices. And, if baseball really wanted to stop steroids, they could easily do so. But, they don't mind looking the other way when they are making profits so boo hoo to them. Either take a strong stand and KICK out players who do this or stop pretending with the phony outrage. The records ARE the records. i more or less agree with your sentiment, BUT, there is the little point that the record would not be what it is without the steroids. bonds very well have passed babe ruth in homers, but he also very well might not have without the steroids. the records show the power of steroids, not the ability of the player
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2013 15:19:10 GMT -5
I disagree. Because steroided players are also playing against OTHER steroid players as well. One does not merely take steroids and become a super athlete. And, as for records, there are more games being played and on and on. And, feats of athleticism are feats of athleticism whether on steroids or not. I think it is all bunk. They COULD weed this out completely if they choose too. But, they do not because it sells tickets. So stop the pretense. They can't have it both ways. If they were kicked out of the league and banned because of it while playing, fine. But, dont' come back years later with some bull crap accusations.
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Post by Flying Horse on Jan 19, 2013 12:40:04 GMT -5
There were others beside the alleged steroid users that are potential Hall of Famers who didn't make the necessary total. Craig Biggio got 68% and may make it next year. But next year Greg Maddox and Tom Glavine will be on the ballot and there are no steroid problems with either of those two pitchers. I thought that Jack Morris might make it this year, since Biggio was the only other one with a strong Hall of Fame career. Morris deserves to be in the Hall because he was the dominant pitcher of his era. If there was a big game to win, he was the one who did it. But he's being a victim of the cybermetrics bunch because he doesn't have any of their fancy numbers. And I have no problem with the baseball writers making a statement of disapproval by not electing Bonds and Clemens to the Hall of Fame. It's a special honor to be elected on the first ballot - only 44 members of the Hall of Fame have been. Both Bonds and Clemons deserve to be Hall of Famers - they were Hall of Famers before they started with steroids. The same can't be said of Sammy Sosa and I don't think that he should be in the Hall.
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Post by steff on Jan 19, 2013 13:59:49 GMT -5
Biggio should make it because there is no steroid taint around him at all....however, his teammate & fellow Killer B, Bagwell is very likely to be connected to the steroid players even tho he has never been openly accused. Bagwell, like other possible steroid users, got too big and too powerful too fast.
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