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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2013 14:38:50 GMT -5
Well, are you prepared for you daughters to be drafted? Can women shoot a gun as well as a man? Of course. Do i want my DAUGHTER to have to register for the draft? No.
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Post by jackthelad on Feb 1, 2013 14:51:11 GMT -5
Well, are you prepared for you daughters to be drafted? Can women shoot a gun as well as a man? Of course. Do i want my DAUGHTER to have to register for the draft? No. Why not, her mother comes across as a right little Boudicca, Our little own Warrior Queen was a right little battle axe. Pity she had to die on the battle field.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2013 14:56:50 GMT -5
Oh, believe me, i can be pretty scrappy!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2013 14:57:22 GMT -5
Well, i will send my daugther to the frontlines IF OBAMA sends HIS daughters to the front lines.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2013 15:01:08 GMT -5
Of course, our soldiers won't be allowed to have guns.
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Post by jackthelad on Feb 1, 2013 15:11:15 GMT -5
Well, i will send my daugther to the frontlines IF OBAMA sends HIS daughters to the front lines. I don't think they want to send women to the front line, but giving them a choice, the only women that will go are women that have volunteered to go. Women go on about sexual discrimination, now they can't complain. We have women on the front line in Afghanistan , some armed, others armed with bandages and medical equipment. Both are serving on the front line, and none are forced into it. Some have came back highly decorated for actions beyond the call of duty.
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Post by starlight07 on Feb 1, 2013 15:50:07 GMT -5
Personally I don't like women going out to combat. She can easily fall pregnant and then her life and the child's is at risk.
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Post by a on Feb 1, 2013 16:01:02 GMT -5
Women have been in combat for quite a while, especially in the last decade. Now they are being given the chance to join combat arms units, not just combat support. They still have to meet the same qualifications that men do. Female M.P. Wins Silver Star for Bravery in Iraq Firefight Published: June 17, 2005 Sgt. Leigh Ann Hester, a military police officer in the Kentucky National Guard, became the first female soldier awarded the Silver Star since World War II, for her role in thwarting an Iraqi insurgent ambush in March, the military said Thursday. In a 90-minute firefight, Sergeant Hester and handful of other Guard soldiers fought off more than 30 insurgents armed with assault rifles, machine guns and rocket-propelled grenades after the force attacked a supply convoy southeast of Baghdad. The Americans killed 27 and wounded or captured 7 others, the military said. Sergeant Hester, 23, a store manager in Nashville in civilian life, and seven other members of her unit, the 617th Military Police Company, received medals on Thursday in Baghdad from Lt. Gen. John R. Vines of the Army, the American ground commander in Iraq. She is believed to be the first woman to receive the Silver Star, the Army's third-highest award for gallantry, in more than 60 years, said Martha Rudd, a spokeswoman for the Army. Mary Roberts Wilson was the first woman given a Silver Star, for gallantry at the Battle of Anzio in World War II. About 140 Silver Stars have been awarded for bravery in Iraq. The rescue and Sergeant Hester's role in repelling the assault gained news coverage as Congress debated proposals to limit women's positions in combat zones. Under a Pentagon policy from 1994, women may not be in direct ground combat units smaller than brigades, because the smaller units typically have a greater likelihood of engaging the enemy. Ground combat units are defined as infantry, armor, Special Forces, field artillery and combat engineers. The counterinsurgencies in Iraq and Afghanistan illustrate the blurring of traditional battlefield boundaries, exposing troops in support units like the military police to direct combat. About 15,000 female troops are in Iraq. Thirty-five servicewomen have been killed there. Critics of the current restrictions have pointed to Sergeant Hester's actions as an example of how women can hold their own in combat. Her unit was patrolling at midday on March 20 near Salman Pak, Iraq, when a convoy of 30 civilian trucks nearby came under attack. Sergeant Hester and her units sped three Humvees through the weapons fire, turning up a dirt road to cut off the attack, according to a military account. Sergeant Hester and her soldiers stopped their Humvees and ran to a berm, firing at the attackers with rifles and grenades. "Bullets were flying everywhere," Sergeant Hester, who was not injured, said in an interview in April with Knight-Ridder newspapers. "I could hear them pinging off the truck in back of me." She and another soldier ran into a trench, firing at three or four fighters 150 feet away. "Her actions saved the lives of numerous convoy members," the award citation said. www.nytimes.com/2005/06/17/national/17medal.html?_r=0
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Post by jackthelad on Feb 1, 2013 16:12:18 GMT -5
Personally I don't like women going out to combat. She can easily fall pregnant and then her life and the child's is at risk. Well I don't think the women will be passing it around on the front line, they happen to be working for the Army not a knocking shop. You might not know it but a lot of women have heard of contraceptives, and are sensible about things. Boudicca even took her daughters into battle with her, she had no qualms about fighting. Mind you, she had good cause, her and her daughters were whipped and raped by Roman soldiers. Warrior women are known as Amazons, we have quite a few serving in our Army, they think, why should men have all the fun.
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Post by starlight07 on Feb 1, 2013 16:14:44 GMT -5
Personally I don't like women going out to combat. She can easily fall pregnant and then her life and the child's is at risk. Well I don't think the women will be passing it around on the front line, they happen to be working for the Army not a knocking shop. You might not know it but a lot of women have heard of contraceptives, and are sensible about things. Boudicca even took her daughters into battle with her, she had no qualms about fighting. Mind you, she had good cause, her and her daughters were whipped and raped by Roman soldiers. Warrior women are known as Amazons, we have quite a few serving in our Army, they think, why should men have all the fun.
Mistakes do happen Jack and I have read and heard of cases where the women have become pregnant.
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Post by jackthelad on Feb 1, 2013 16:22:02 GMT -5
Well I don't think the women will be passing it around on the front line, they happen to be working for the Army not a knocking shop. You might not know it but a lot of women have heard of contraceptives, and are sensible about things. Boudicca even took her daughters into battle with her, she had no qualms about fighting. Mind you, she had good cause, her and her daughters were whipped and raped by Roman soldiers. Warrior women are known as Amazons, we have quite a few serving in our Army, they think, why should men have all the fun.
Mistakes do happen Jack and I have read and heard of cases where the women have become pregnant. If that is the case I don't think it was a mistake but a chance to getaway from an hell hole without losing face. They wouldn't go to the Commanding Officer and I want posting out because am scared, but pregnant, then the officer wouldn't take the risk of her being there.
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Post by a on Feb 1, 2013 16:26:15 GMT -5
An Airman assigned to the 820th Security Forces Group here recently received the Air Combat Command’s Airman of the Year award. According to Air Force officials, Senior Airman Polly-Jan Bobseine, a security forces journeyman with the 823rd Security Forces Squadron, was chosen for the award based on her hard-working attitude and duties as a fire-team member. While deployed to Kirkuk Air Base, Iraq, she was one of 56 chosen out of 330 Airmen to conduct off-base patrol operations. Her team carried out more than 100 combat patrols within a 63-mile radius helping to dominate the terrain of the Air Force zone. One of Airman Bobseine’s goals upon entering the Air Force was to become airborne qualified. Not only did she attend the U.S. Army Airborne School, she also attended the Air Force’s Special Operations School’s Sub-Saharan Africa Orientation Course, the U.S. Army Combat Life Saver course and the Close Precision Engagement Course.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2013 16:31:36 GMT -5
Here is gal who is a straight shooter:
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Post by a on Feb 1, 2013 16:46:16 GMT -5
No combat patrols, Airborne Wings or Silver Stars in her profile...
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Post by jackthelad on Feb 1, 2013 17:24:28 GMT -5
Here is gal who is a straight shooter: The posh people who go shooting pheasants on country estates, have people like that, they call them gun bearers. Just one stage up from a gun dog, the gun dogs role is to retrieve, gun bearer is to carry the gun and load it when necessary. Just a jumped up skive really.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2013 8:44:43 GMT -5
No combat patrols, Airborne Wings or Silver Stars in her profile... I know she didn't serve but i just like to invoke the name "Sarah Palin" and watch you foam at the mouth. BTW, her son does serve.
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Post by jackthelad on Feb 2, 2013 9:13:40 GMT -5
No combat patrols, Airborne Wings or Silver Stars in her profile... I know she didn't serve but i just like to invoke the name "Sarah Palin" and watch you foam at the mouth. BTW, her son does serve. Got a job has a waiter as he, or does he work behind a counter, or maybe a barman even. Lots of people serve one way or another.
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Post by Shirina on Feb 2, 2013 9:37:13 GMT -5
When I was in the Navy, they wouldn't allow me to serve on a warship. The problem with that is women tend to get shore assignments or they are assigned to auxilliary, non-combat vessels like oilers, tenders, tugs, and replenishment ships.
These assignments are far easier than serving on a combat ship, the shore based assignments especially so since it's like holding any other job. That means you live life pretty much like any civilian, which includes all the drama of sex, romance, and pregnancies.
In other words, the military was placing women in assignments that almost ensured that they would be seen as a distraction to the "real" soldiers and sailors. I only did one tour ... and I kept it at only one tour because of the constant sex and womanizing that went on aboard my ship. A lot of things happen in the enlisted ranks that never appears on the radar of the brass. Sexual favors, being pressured for sex by higher ranking NCOs, getting crap jobs or write-ups or having to stand watch on holidays if you don't put out sex ... and a lot of women DID give it up to move ahead. That means the bar is raised on people like me who refused to be a skank.
The one thing that the military fails to teach its enlisted personnel is honor, integrity, maturity, and self-respect (much less respect for the female gender). They push these virtues at West Point and Annapolis, but not at Great Lakes Naval Training Center.
Instead of simply denying women the ability to serve in combat positions, perhaps it would do us, the men, and society at large a greater good if the military spent a bit more time making recruits into real gentlemen and not just killing machines.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2013 9:44:11 GMT -5
Shirina - I have no doubt that women can function in that role.
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Post by jackthelad on Feb 2, 2013 9:55:47 GMT -5
Shirina - I have no doubt that women can function in that role. After some off the things you have been saying could have fooled me, and what Shirina's been saying doesn't just happen in the military, it's rife in all other walks of life also. Women will always be sex objects, mind you, some times women use sex to get on, don't trust their natural abilities. ;)t
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