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Post by femme on Feb 21, 2012 12:02:59 GMT -5
Femme, I get tired of tosh, and others, always throwing religion into EVERY conversation. As if they are 'proving' something to themselves and others. Enough is enough. This conversation has absolutely nothing to do with religion or even being kind to starving people. It is concerning what others are trying to pass off as food. And safe food at that. |
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Post by tosh on Feb 21, 2012 12:14:22 GMT -5
I beg to differ, this thread is about starving people and morality, your choice is you don't want to eat copies, and you have that privilege to choose.
This does not make it wrong, it makes it wrong for YOU and all the rest of the priviledged few.
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Post by tosh on Feb 21, 2012 12:17:02 GMT -5
I am sorry, but this statement actually contradicts itself on so many levels it is bordering in imbecilic.
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Post by tosh on Feb 21, 2012 12:22:32 GMT -5
If it is exact copies then there is no difference, its basic chemistry and biology.
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Post by dom on Feb 21, 2012 12:25:00 GMT -5
Maybe it will taste a lot better than the usual shyte they dish out.
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Post by weltschmerz on Feb 21, 2012 12:35:32 GMT -5
Janie, I would eat Frankenmeat. I don't eat meat NOW, not due to health reasons, but because of the appalling way industrial feedlot animals are treated. You likened it yourself to bovine concentration camps and I fully agree. I've seen the horrific things that happen in feedlots and slaughterhouses, and my conscience won't allow me to swallow it, even though I really used to love it. So, if they found a way where they can make cloned meat that didn't suffer....yes, I would most certainly eat it.
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Post by tosh on Feb 21, 2012 12:53:26 GMT -5
I agree, we have 4 choices:
Population control, more land mass, cloning or vegetarianism.
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Post by janieshere on Feb 21, 2012 13:29:40 GMT -5
Well, to each his own. I'm personally going to buy my meat from the Amish, or Mennonites, where I know the animals are grass fed and treated humanely. I do not want GMO corn either. I already grow a lot of my veggies, so I'll just grow more.
BTW, bite me anyway, tosh... 
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Post by tosh on Feb 21, 2012 13:43:15 GMT -5
.....and then murdered to satisfy your appetite, at least with synthetic food nobody gets murdered.  Please stop trying to bite me, you sound very bloodthirsty dearest.  |
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Post by janieshere on Feb 21, 2012 13:45:57 GMT -5
.....and then murdered to satisfy your appetite, at least with synthetic food nobody gets murdered. Please stop trying to bite me, you sound very bloodthirsty dearest.
There's nothing wrong with eating meat. So, don't even go there with me....
Before you bite me, one question: have you had your rabies shot? |
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Post by tosh on Feb 21, 2012 15:24:40 GMT -5
I agree, now you are cooking with gas.  |
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Post by janieshere on Feb 21, 2012 15:53:52 GMT -5
I agree, now you are cooking with gas.
Where I come from, changing someones' post is deceitful, and ummm.....lying!!!!! |
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Post by tosh on Feb 21, 2012 16:45:32 GMT -5
Wait until you are served a synthetic juicy steak and you don't even know the difference. Yum...yum. |
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Post by janieshere on Feb 21, 2012 16:51:35 GMT -5
Wait until you are served a synthetic juicy steak and you don't even know the difference. Yum...yum.
Highly doubtful that will ever happen. I don't order steak at the restaurant...AND I am not buying anymore at the store either..Yuck! No, I'm already planning a trip at my local Amish market to buy me some delish beef that's been grass fed, and chickens that have roamed the yard! Yummy! |
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Post by femme on Feb 21, 2012 16:51:41 GMT -5
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Post by janieshere on Feb 21, 2012 16:59:51 GMT -5
LOL! Next thing you know that spam will made out of cows 'synthetic rubber ball cells' True story!! ;D |
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Post by isa on Feb 21, 2012 17:50:54 GMT -5
Nasty.
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Post by teriblue on Feb 21, 2012 18:33:46 GMT -5
Sounds terrible to me....yuck!! I like an old fashion greasy hamburger. Made from real meat. Or meatfood ;D
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Post by janieshere on Feb 22, 2012 3:12:29 GMT -5
All natural, huh, tosh? Think again.
www.responsibletechnology.org/
Bt Toxin DOES Harm Human Cells - Study
This story is important. The FDA claims that the pesticide Bt-toxin, inserted into corn and cotton plants in order to kill insects, is harmless to humans and animals. They have ignored peer reviewed studies in the past, showing that the natural soil-born toxin does lead to allergic and flu-like symptoms in exposed humans, and intestinal tissue damage and immune responses in mice fed the toxin.
We also know that mice fed Monsanto's Bt corn showed massive immune system responses. Farm workers in India are getting allergic and flu-like symptoms form touching Bt cotton. And numerous US physicians believe that ingestion of Bt corn may be causing disruption of the digestive system. After all, the toxin is designed to break open the stomach of insects to kill them.
Genetically modified foods…
Are they safe?
The American Academy of Environmental Medicine (AAEM) doesn’t think so. The Academy reported that “Several animal studies indicate serious health risks associated with GM food,” including infertility, immune problems, accelerated aging, faulty insulin regulation, and changes in major organs and the gastrointestinal system. The AAEM asked physicians to advise patients to avoid GM foods.
Before the FDA decided to allow GMOs into food without labeling, FDA scientists had repeatedly warned that GM foods can create unpredictable, hard-to-detect side effects, including allergies, toxins, new diseases, and nutritional problems. They urged long-term safety studies, but were ignored
Since then, findings include:
◦Thousands of  , buffalo, and goats in India died after grazing on Bt cotton plants
◦ Mice eating GM corn for the long term had fewer, and smaller, babies
◦More than half the babies of mother rats fed GM soy died within three weeks, and were smaller
◦Testicle cells of mice and rats on a GM soy change significantly
◦By the third generation, most GM soy-fed hamsters lost the ability to have babies
◦Rodents fed GM corn and soy showed immune system responses and signs of toxicity
◦Cooked GM soy contains as much as 7-times the amount of a known soy allergen
◦Soy allergies skyrocketed by 50% in the UK, soon after GM soy was introduced
◦The stomach lining of rats fed GM potatoes showed excessive cell growth, a condition that may lead to cancer.
◦Studies showed organ lesions, altered liver and pancreas cells, changed enzyme levels, etc.
Unlike safety evaluations for drugs, there are no human clinical trials of GM foods. The only published human feeding experiment revealed that the genetic material inserted into GM soy transfers into bacteria living inside our intestines and continues to function. This means that long after we stop eating GM foods, we may still have their GM proteins produced continuously inside us. This could mean:
◦If the antibiotic gene inserted into most GM crops were to transfer, it could create super diseases, resistant to antibiotics
◦If the gene that creates Bt-toxin in GM corn were to transfer, it might turn our intestinal bacteria into living pesticide factories.
Although no studies have evaluated if antibiotic or Bt-toxin genes transfer, that is one of the key problems. The safety assessments are too superficial to even identify most of the potential dangers from GMOs. See our Health Risks brochure and State of the Science report for more details and citations.
Recent health studies provide growing evidence of harm from GMOs:
Screw around with nature and it comes back to bite you in the ass every time...
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Post by janieshere on Feb 22, 2012 3:18:13 GMT -5
These GMO foods are NOT identical replicas of food, or meat (I dare say!) as you are being lead to believe. They are injected with toxins to kill insects, therefore making it more productive. So, you are basically eating, not less, but MORE pesticides. Who knows what the so-called meat contains! I'll pass on it all.
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