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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 9:21:47 GMT -5
I am actually NOT being funny. I am thinking about a gun as an investment and also for home protection. I will probably get a handgun. I like a revolver. Too hard to cock the other type of guns.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 9:23:39 GMT -5
I was thinking of getting a nice revolver probably a 22. I think 22 ammo would be easier to get. the problem with a 22, or 38 for that matter, is it has little stopping power. a gut shot will kill the punk because the hole is so small that it can close up and it will bleed to death internally. realistically, you want the hole coming out to be bigger than the hole going in
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 9:24:37 GMT -5
So, what caliber handgun would be best? I know a .22 wouldn't do much. But, a .38 won't either?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 9:26:05 GMT -5
I think any gun that works will have value. He doesn't realize it but he is really creating a great gun market. I wish they had Gun mutual funds that i could buy. gun manufacturers stock has gone up 25% since the clowns started the gun control lunacy
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 9:27:16 GMT -5
So, what caliber handgun would be best? I know a .22 wouldn't do much. But, a .38 won't either? i've always preferred a 9mm. the one thing that you don't want is a 45 auto
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 9:28:18 GMT -5
I don't have the hand strength to cock the gun with that slide lock thing. Can i get that in a revolver? SOrry, dont' know much about guns.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 9:33:46 GMT -5
The guy who shot up the theater in Aurora CO and the kid who slaughtered the First grade at Sandy Hook were both law abiding citizens up to the point of killing someone. The would have passed a backround check without a police record as long as they were old enough to buy one. In the case of the Sandy Hook killer, he just took his mothers legally purchased guns after he killed her. They were just like ordinary .223 Bushmaster and other assault rifle owners all over the country. Maybe even more sane than some. As these weapns will outlive their present owners, how can the present owners know that ultimately their gun may be used in a similar atrocity. They don't. Their own children or grandchildren may be either the victim or the killer using the gun they are so proud to own now. All gun owners should lock their darn guns up and kept far away from others! No children (or ANYONE) with any kind of known problems) should even know where the guns are kept. This really pisses me off that parents (and others) are so careless with these killing machines! If gun owners were charged with negligence crimes for having their guns stolen from them, maybe, just maybe, they would be more responsible and careful about these weapons! damn hon, locking your gun up, or having a stupid trigger lock is as imbecilic as it gets. if a punk breaks into your house, you'll be dead long before you unlock the gun
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 9:36:04 GMT -5
Well.....This gets my vote for stupidest post of the day. People should be charged with a crime IF it is proven that the guns were NOT kept locked and out of the hands of others! My rights to have a safe trip to the mall and the kids rights to live beyond school age SUPERCEDE your rights to have a gun and be careless with them! no hon. MY right to survive supercedes any wishful thinking that anyone can have
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 9:39:21 GMT -5
Save your .22 spent brass.....The owner of the gun shop in my town told me that reloaders are buying spent .22 brass to make the jacket on .223 bullets. You guys really don't know squat about guns and neither does the owner of that gun shop. .22 rim fire bullets are tiny little things. There is no way to turn them into a .223 cartridge for an AR-15 or Bushmaster .223 cartridge unless they are smelted down into liquid brass and made into new cartridges. Then it's a new bullet. Although .22 rim fire long rifle bullets kill more people than any other cartridge it doesn't mean they are more lethal. It just means there are a lot of them. Even a 9mm round is not a knockdown round where you can be fairly certain that one round will incapacitate the bad guy. A 45 ACP is what you need for that. Small diameters with higher velocities work well too but for most people they are a bit too much in recoil power. Your arm will rise a foot with each shoot requiring a re aiming for the next shot all of which takes time you don't have in a critical situation. The .45 ACP rises too but not so much. The problem with all of these is that the bullets go thru walls and can hit people sleeping on the opposite side of the wall. A 223 cal fired from an assault rifle can pass thru the wall of a frame house and thru the wall of a neighbors house and hit someone inside. They make rounds for shotguns that dissipate their power on the first object they hit. If it's drywall, then you have a big hole in the wall but anyone on the other side is safe from serious harm. A bad guy in the house will absorb the same power as being kicked by a horse. He will go down and if he trys to get up a second shot to the noggin will stop that. So the best home protection gun is a pump or semi-auto 12 gauge shotgun with non-lethal rounds. They sell short barrel shotguns for just this purpose. You can use the same shotgun for bird hunting but you have to be close to the bird to be effective. Some shotgun manufacturers have interchangeable barrels so you can swap the barrels according to your needs. An if you are in a duel with your neighbor and he has a pistol of any kind or even an assault rifle and you have a 12ga. shotgun with buckshot within 50 feet of each other, you will win the duel. i'll agree with you on the shotgun, except for the fact that it is not as advantageous as a handgun for the same reason that an assault rifle is not. i can pick up my 9mm and fire a couple of rounds before you can get the shotgun up and fired. a shotgun also requires being fairly sturdy. a 10 gauge is not for a 90 pound chick
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 9:41:21 GMT -5
Well.....This gets my vote for stupidest post of the day. Yep, you get my vote for the stupidest response to Janies post, nothing stupid about telling people to take care of their gun/guns. The trouble is with some of you yank's, you regard guns has toys, you can't leave them laying around like a child's doll, they should be locked away. Better still, not own a gun at all. typical euroweenie. obviously, guns are toys when you on the range shooting. they are NOT toys in your house. they are there to be used if a piece of shit asks you to kill it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 9:52:10 GMT -5
Why would a person want a hundred guns, responsible or not, they can only handle one at a time . I like cars, but I only need the one, now if it was racing pigeons I could understand them wanting more than one. How many ties do you own? Suit coats? let's not forget how many pairs of shoes his wife owns
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 9:55:37 GMT -5
All collectors have a reason. All coin collectors have a reason......Guns are no different than coins as a item to be collected. or baseball cards, or antiques, or ceramic dolls, etc etc etc
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 9:56:35 GMT -5
Seldom wear a tie, usually a black one at funerals, I do own a couple of belts though, but they aren't long enough to hang myself with never mind committing mass murder with. Never heard of anyone being killed by a pair of trousers either. You will have to come up with something better than ties or clothes Pilgrim. what something can be used for has absolutely NO relevance to collecting
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 9:58:43 GMT -5
I am actually NOT being funny. I am thinking about a gun as an investment and also for home protection. I will probably get a handgun. I like a revolver. Too hard to cock the other type of guns. that's best. when you get it, the first thing that you need to do is go to a range with an instructor, so you can learn safety, as well as hitting what you're shooting at
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 10:03:24 GMT -5
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Post by a on Jan 21, 2013 11:22:02 GMT -5
Most certainly.
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Post by jackthelad on Jan 21, 2013 11:44:58 GMT -5
Yep, you get my vote for the stupidest response to Janies post, nothing stupid about telling people to take care of their gun/guns. The trouble is with some of you yank's, you regard guns has toys, you can't leave them laying around like a child's doll, they should be locked away. Better still, not own a gun at all. typical euroweenie. obviously, guns are toys when you on the range shooting. they are NOT toys in your house. they are there to be used if a piece of shit asks you to kill it. Gun's are guns on the firing range just as they are in war, certainly not toys. Criminality must be very rife in the US of A to expect Americans to be robbed or their lives being threatened 24/7. We have an easier way of dealing with pieces of shit, we flush it down the toilet. You hurt me to the quick calling me a Euroweenie, never call myself a European, I voted against us joining what they called the Common Market, in a referendum in the seventies. I would certainly like us to get of this European Union that we never voted for, they keep promising a referendum, but it is never forthcoming, they now what the British publics answer would be. OUT.
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Post by robinpa on Jan 21, 2013 12:32:24 GMT -5
typical euroweenie. obviously, guns are toys when you on the range shooting. they are NOT toys in your house. they are there to be used if a piece of shit asks you to kill it. Gun's are guns on the firing range just as they are in war, certainly not toys. Criminality must be very rife in the US of A to expect Americans to be robbed or their lives being threatened 24/7. We have an easier way of dealing with pieces of shit, we flush it down the toilet. You hurt me to the quick calling me a Euroweenie, never call myself a European, I voted against us joining what they called the Common Market, in a referendum in the seventies. I would certainly like us to get of this European Union that we never voted for, they keep promising a referendum, but it is never forthcoming, they now what the British publics answer would be. OUT. Well put jack, and it illustrates the main problem here in the US when it comes to guns, far too many gun owners view their guns as toys. Jumbo's slip there in his statement that "guns are obviously toys when you are on the range shooting"(His Exact Words) is proof of that underlying mentality that is so rampant here. The truth is that guns should never be viewed, or thought of, or even referred to as toys, either on the range or in the home.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 13:19:54 GMT -5
typical euroweenie. obviously, guns are toys when you on the range shooting. they are NOT toys in your house. they are there to be used if a piece of shit asks you to kill it. Gun's are guns on the firing range just as they are in war, certainly not toys. Criminality must be very rife in the US of A to expect Americans to be robbed or their lives being threatened 24/7. We have an easier way of dealing with pieces of shit, we flush it down the toilet. You hurt me to the quick calling me a Euroweenie, never call myself a European, I voted against us joining what they called the Common Market, in a referendum in the seventies. I would certainly like us to get of this European Union that we never voted for, they keep promising a referendum, but it is never forthcoming, they now what the British publics answer would be. OUT. you're obviously totally correct about the european union. NO intelligent person would support such an abjectly stupid idea. the entire concept of it is imbecilic. why you would vote against the european common market though, i don't understand. it was nothing but a trading block. there was no idiocy such as common currency, or the no border stupidty. britain's gun ban works so well that five 13-15 year old boys can blow away an eleven year old to steal his bicycle. americans ARE robbed and murdered 24/7. there are at least two home invasion robberies in nashville every week. there is an armed robbery every five seconds nationwide. Nationwide in 2010, there were an estimated 367,832 robberies. that is over ten times as many robberies as you have
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 13:26:01 GMT -5
Gun's are guns on the firing range just as they are in war, certainly not toys. Criminality must be very rife in the US of A to expect Americans to be robbed or their lives being threatened 24/7. We have an easier way of dealing with pieces of shit, we flush it down the toilet. You hurt me to the quick calling me a Euroweenie, never call myself a European, I voted against us joining what they called the Common Market, in a referendum in the seventies. I would certainly like us to get of this European Union that we never voted for, they keep promising a referendum, but it is never forthcoming, they now what the British publics answer would be. OUT. Well put jack, and it illustrates the main problem here in the US when it comes to guns, far too many gun owners view their guns as toys. Jumbo's slip there in his statement that "guns are obviously toys when you are on the range shooting"(His Exact Words) is proof of that underlying mentality that is so rampant here. The truth is that guns should never be viewed, or thought of, or even referred to as toys, either on the range or in the home. wrong. i never said that a gun is a tonka truck or an erector set. i said that guns are to have fun with when you go to the range. as i've said before, firing an assault rifle is really fun. the reason that you go to the range is to have fun.
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